NOTICE: "...I'm trying to get in contact with Don C. East IRT the VQ-1 and VQ-2 History Circa 1951 - 1987 History Summary Pages. I'm trying to identify some folks in a picture that I believe was taken at the same CoC ceremony he has posted on the website. I've attached the two photos however the one from the website is not as clear as I had hoped. If I could get any information about where his original came from it may help me find out more about mine. Thanks in advance..." Contributed by Vincent Hadus email@example.com [11SEP2012]
NOTICE: "...Most of the old Q-types have gotten the word that VQ-2 will be disestablished and absorbed into VQ-1 at 1000 on May 17th at NAS Whidbey Island, Washington. If you are interested in attending, there is a ceremony registration form at http://www.vq2.navy.mil/. Click on the VQ-2 Disestablishment Registration Form link if there's a way you can make it. Those of us who were present at the commissioning on September 1, 1955 have sent our well wishes to the new combined unit. Reiterating our support for and pride in all that VQ-2 has stood for and accomplished in the 57 years since we stood on the tarmac in NAF Port Lyautey, Morocco and wondered what in the world was a "VQ..." Contributed by John McIntyre firstname.lastname@example.org [30APR2012]
NOTICE: "...If you served with VQ-1 (1968-1971) and deployed to Det Bravo, FASU/NSA DaNang, Republic of Vietnam, we need your help. ADJ1 Roger Stermer, who worked in the Mech shop, passed away last year. His widow, Carol, is trying to prove to the VA that he served in country. If you knew Roger and were deployed at the same time as him, Carol would like your help in proving this. If you have any TAD orders with his name, pictures, or are willing to write a letter stating that you served with Roger at the Det, please contact me and I will contact her. If you have had this problem and got it resolved, how did you do it. I served with FE Roger while in VP-19 (1973)..." Contributed by McKENNA, John J. "JJ" email@example.com [05MAR2012]
NOTICE: "...In the summer of 1958 on Shemya Island I was friends with Don I. Thompson of VQ-1. I though he might have died flying up Rudssian Rivers. I was Navy LT(jg) from EODU-1 in NAS Pearl Harbor, Hawaii an EOD officer clearing Shemya harbor of WWII bombs to lower the insurance rates for the shipment of stuff for the big new radar. I got to know Don well but we lost contact over the years. If anyone know's his whereabouts - please let me know. Thanks. Robert Youker firstname.lastname@example.org..." [13JUL2009]
NOTICE: "...I am trying to get any and all information available about my father, AT2 Carl Edwin Messinger, who was lost August 22, 1956 while flying in a VQ-1 P4M-1Q Mercator over the Taiwan Straits...Barry Messinger email@example.com..." [31OCT2007]
I am trying to get any and all information available about my father, AT2 Carl Edwin Messinger, who was lost August 22, 1956 while flying in a VQ-1 P4M-1Q Mercator over the Taiwan Straits.
His aircraft was shot down by Zhongwen Song (People's Republic of China) of the Chinese Air Force 6th regiment of Division 2 32 miles off the coast of China (Shengsi Island near Wenchow). Before going down his crew radioed that it was under attack by aircraft. The Chinese stated, through British diplomatic sources, that they had fired on the aircraft believing it to be a Chinese Nationalist (Taiwanese) plane. Out of a crew of 16 only 2 remains were recovered by US forces, 2 remains recovered by Chinese and 12 totally unaccounted for.
I have very little memory of my father. It would be nice to talk with someone who might have know him or others of the crew.
NOTICE: "...This aircraft operated for both squadrons. We need donations to save her..." Contributed by HERNDON, AMHC John D. Retired firstname.lastname@example.org [30JUL2007]
WE NEED YOUR DONATIONS TO HELP SAVE A COLD WAR RECONAISSANCE AIRCRAFT FROM BEING SCRAPPED!. VQ-1/2 EA-3B Buno 146457 AIRCRAFT THAT IS CURRENTLY ON DISPLAY AT NAS ROTA SPAIN, NEEDS TO BE SENT BACK TO THE USA OR FACES BEING SCRAPPED. THE TENATIVE PLAN IS TO SPACE A SHIP THE AIRCRAFT TO NORVA THAN BARGE IT TO THE USS ALABAMA MILITARY PARK IN MOBILE ALABAMA. PLEASE DONATE TO THIS EFFORT. SEND YOUR CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS TO : A-3 ASSOCIATION SAVE THE VQ2 WHALE FUND. ATTENTION MARK SWISHER 4225 INSPIRATION DR. BENBROOK TEXAS 76126-5216
EA-3B BUNO 146457 was VQ-1 PR 005 and VQ-2 JQ 007.
THE A-3 ASSOCIATION IS A NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION INS EIN 43-1906260, CAN BE TAX DEDUCTED.
NOTICE: "...I have been going over and over in my mind how to write this message. I don't want to find that in 3 months I can no longer write or call any of you so I am writing now. As a few of you may know I have been under treatment for Non-Hodgkins lymphoma for over 5 years. About a year ago the cancer changed to chronic lymphocytic leukemia. I am now requiring blood transfusions once a week and my oncologist told me yesterday that I will need transfusions twice a week shortly. As the cancer progresses I would eventually need daily transfusions at which point hospice may be the best choice. A few years ago when I started working on a book about the P4M Martin Mercator I had planned to visit different parts of the United States to interview those of you who had any contact with the P4M. Unfortunately cardiac and cancer problems kept me from doing this in recent years and now I know I will not be completing this as originally planned. However, my wife, Toby, wants to continue gathering your stories after I'm gone and may be contacting some of you about this. The time period from January 1951 to September 1953 was the high point of my Navy career. When I was selected as one of the original 12 pilots to form the first dedicated electronic reconnaissance unit in the Pacific fleet I had no idea of the significance of our mission. The work done by the Special Project Unit, the NAF Patrol Unit, VW-1 Det Able, VW-2 Det Able and VW-3 Det Able led to the establishment of VQ-1 and VQ-2 and a long and illustrious history of VQ. I am proud to have been one of the original members of this effort and to have served with the most dedicated group of Shipmates that I have ever known. God bless you all...Mel Davidow email@example.com..." [22JUL2005]
NOTICE: "...In response to the many inquiries concerning the Plankowners presentation to VQ-1 on the occasion of the Squadron's Fiftieth Anniversary yesterday, the certificate is being proudly displayed at the squadron (it's in the wardroom this week) and the outfit's new Skipper, Garner Morgan, is planning a Reunion-type get-together at NAS Whidbey Island, Washington in August. My personal thanks to all of you who helped me track down the twenty-two living Plankowners whose names grace the Presentation and of course, the "Planks" themselves who hung in there with me in the search for almost three years now. My old outfit, VQ-2, is up for our fiftieth anniversary on September 1st and we're still taking names and counting if any of you have live sightings...John McIntyre firstname.lastname@example.org..." [03JUN2005]
NOTICE: "...Looking for Steven Edward Henderson. He served with VQ-1. Thank you...Evan Henderson email@example.com..." [25AUG2004]
NOTICE: "...I am looking to see if anyone know's the whereabouts of a Senior Chief Douglas Shultz. I remember he was in an airdale rating, but I'm not sure which one. I believe before he retired, he made master chief. He had a Filipina wife named Hilda. His wife and my wife were best friends in Guam and we need some help to find them. Thank You...YEAGER, IS1(SW) George firstname.lastname@example.org..." [17OCT2003]
NOTICE: "...I am looking for Joe Whitaker. He was an NFO. Went through NAS Pensacola, Florida around Jan 1968 and ultimately received orders to VQ-1. As I recall, he was from Bradford PA...Andy Gabriel email@example.com..." [02OCT2002]
NOTICE: "...I am looking for an old friend of the family. Jim Walker was a flight engineer AME1 and last I heard went to VQ-1 around 1996. If anyone out there knows of his where abouts please email me with more information. Thanks for your help...Tammy Shuflat (formerly Nelson) firstname.lastname@example.org..." [13DEC2000]
NOTICE: "...Would like to hear from anyone flying VQ-1's EC-121s out of Danang 68/69 and any who flew the follow-on missions from NAS Atsugi, Japan following the downing of EC-121 by N. Korea. A fellow Marine and myself (the only two remaining Korean interps at the time) rotated that mission for 45 days on the P-3s. I would like to hear from anyone knowing his name and whereabouts...Lemuel E. "Jack" Gatewood email@example.com..." [21JUN2000]
NOTICE: "...December 6, 1999...Hello All Interested VQers:
I have some information that I think merits my passing it on to you. As each of you knows there are some profound experiences in our lives. Some we share with no one, some we share with family and some with friends. From our Navy experiences, and more profoundly our VQ memories, we have come to recognize times and events that meet our criteria for sharing with our shipmates. I am of that thought as I write this message of notification.
It is my task to advise you all that Mr. Philip K. "Ole" Olsen has reached the final portion of his journey on this earth. A few days ago I received a message the Chris Olsen, his son, wished to talk with me. While I've not yet talked directly with Chris, I was able to find a location where Ole had been. Unfortunately he had already departed that location to return to his home in New York. And in the course of my telephone calls I found that Ole had come to a part of his journey with an obstacle which in all likelihood he will not be able to negotiate. As with any adversary, cancer remains one of mankind's severest challenges. In Ole's situation it went undetected, and got so far ahead that turning things around appeared impossible.
On Saturday, Ole was ‘medivaced' via air ambulance back to his home at 405 Asharoken Blvd, Bayshore, NY 11706. There he will be with his wife, Ida, and receive the kind of love and care that can only be found at one's home. Some of you may wish to call or send a message. You can find Ole's home phone number and his email address in the VQ Association directory.
Ole a member of our VQ circle who contributed a great deal of himself to his shipmates in helping us realize the establishment of a viable VQ Association, with the reunions we now enjoy on a regular basis. I first met Ole at the 1989 reunion in Rockville. A couple years later when we had the reunion at Solomon's Island near Patuxent River, Ole volunteered to be the association secretary, and we were off and running. As Ron Holmberg, our present secretary, and I will certify, it takes a yeoman effort year around to keep up with an organization such as ours.
For those who do not know Ole's VQ experience, it was as a radioman on the P-4M-1Q from 1957 to 59. VQ-1 was in its early days as a squadron and was based at Iwakuni, Japan. Had the squadrons not had the gifts of strong and patriotic young men like Ole and his shipmates, the VQ squadrons would not have continued and grown significantly in their contributions to America's defense and the freedom we cherish so dearly.
I have no recommendation as to what you should do as an individual with this news. This is a circumstance where only you can make that determination on if or whether to call or write.
Sincerely and respectfully...J D Meyer for the VQ Association...If you do not have the directory and need a phone # give me a note at this e-mail add..." Contributed by JigDogM@aol.com via B. Wilkins TWOWHELBIL01@AOL.COM [07DEC99]
NOTICE: "...My name is Dave Gruendel and I am trying to find people who knew my father, LT(jg) John Singer. He was in VQ-1 and was aboard the EC-121 that was shot down by the N. Koreans in April 1969...Dave Gruendel firstname.lastname@example.org"
[01OCT98] "...I have had a flood of emails and just tonight spoke with some very close friends of his and my mother for about an hour; it was great. Needless to say, I am very thankful..A memorial dedication is being planned for this 15 April to mark the 30th anniversary of the shoot down. As I hear more about it I'll let you know to keep you updated..."
[28FEB99] "...I have found many folks who either knew my father, others who served with him, or who knew of the incident. It's been a pleasure hearing from all of them and has helped me to better understand who he was and what occurred...Thanks!..." [31DEC98]
"...You will be happy to know that I found my dad's sponsor when he was initially assigned to VQ-1. In fact, this gentleman served with my dad for three years so needless to say, I am quite happy...Thanks!..." [02OCT98]
NOTICE: "...Could any old Shipmates point me to LT J.D. WHITMIRE, USN, assigned to VQ-1 Agana in 1970, or 71. He was a 1630, formerly assigned to NISO Vietnam, where I knew him very well...D.H. HUBBARD email@example.com..." [12MAR99]
NOTICE: "...Trying to locate Steve Kuipers, stationed with VQ-1 75-79 and Randy Barnes also with VQ-1 during the same period at NAS Atsugi, Japan. I roomed with both. Steve's email came back undeliverable and I totally lost track of Randy after he transferred to VP-1 at NAS Barbers Point, Hawaii. My nickname while at NAS Atsugi, Japan was Grizz. I was an AK3 running the det material control. Does anyone remember Lt. Gordon and AKCS Avelar?...Ed Hughes firstname.lastname@example.org..." [12NOV98]
NOTICE: "...Trying to locate a friend, Mike Wilkes, possibly ex VQ-1, associated with their operations from Japan. When I heard from him last he was last working for ESL/TRW in San Fransisco. His old e@mail was mike_wilkes@smtp.SVL.TRW.COM, but that and an AOL address have changed. Any one got any clues...Paul Warrener [E-Mail Removed By Request]..." [07JUN98]
NOTICE: "...I need info on suspected wanna be who claims that he "served three tours of duty with VQ-1 during '67-'68 (sic) DaNang." He also claims "147 combat missions behind enemy lines" where ever they were. Also claims to be former Senior Air Intelligence Analyst for the National Security Agency...RA Doyle, USMC ret. email@example.com..." [10NOV98]
NOTICE: "...Vince Anania, who was flying the VQ-1 Martin Mercator P4M-1Q PR-9 when it was attacked by MiGs (see http://www.silent-warriors.com/p4m-1q_mercator.htm ), is now living in Bradenton, Florida. Fifteen years ago he suffered a massive stroke and is unable to speak very well. Vince is recovering from a broken hip and uses an electric power chair to get around. I visited Vince and his wife, Liz, in their new home last week and gave Vince copies of photographs taken of the damage to PR-9. In spite of his speech difficulties, he was very much interested in recalling his time in VQ. I'm sure that Vince and Liz would appreciate cards or letters. Just write to them at 6435 Moorings Point Circle - Unit 102, Bradenton, FL 34202-1209. An email contact would be Nancy Sims, their daughter who also lives in Bradenton, firstname.lastname@example.org. LT Mel Davidow Retired email@example.com..." [26MAR2005]
NOTICE: "...Compilation of VQ-2 Fatalities..." Contributed by HERNDON, AMHC John D. Retired firstname.lastname@example.org [30JAN2003]
VQ-1 and VQ-2, commissioned in the mid 1950s, were preceded by specially equipped aircraft and trained crews in small detachments with an Officer in Charge (OIC) administratively attached to other squadrons and units under operational control of the local theatre commanders, CINCNELM and CINCPAC, and responsible to the Special Project Division in the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO).
Some of these squadrons were VC-11, VP-26, VW-1 Detachment. A, VW-2 Detachment A, NCU-32G, and NCU-38N.
Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadrons One and Two (FAIRECONRON) are VQ-1 and VQ-2, initially designated Electronic Countermeasures Squadrons (ECMRON) until re-designated in 1960. Following is a listing of fatalities from 1950 through 1987.
"...To view all of VQ-2's Accidents and Crashes go to http://www.portlyautey.com/ECM-2.htm. Data was complied from data at the Naval Safety Center, the Naval Museum and eye witness accounts of the accidents in VQ-2. If you have any additional information contact HERNDON, AMHC John D. Retired email@example.com [28DEC2003]
NOTICE: "...I'm looking for information on P2V aircraft that were assigned to VQ-1 in the late 50s. One old timer told me he thought the planes may have come from VP-6. Front end flight crews may have come with the airplanes. They were used for Cold War electronic recconnaisance and flew from Shemya, Alaska. It's thought they may have been P2V-6 aircraft. One of the aircraft was heavily damaged when a hangar door came down during a storm in Shemya. Any help would be appreciated!...Allan "Putt" Prevette, Secretary, VQ Association firstname.lastname@example.org..." [09FEB2005]
NOTICE: "...I am also attempting to verify the modex (PR) number of the P4M-1Q Mercator BuNo 124362 shot down in 1956. I am thinking of a painting to commemorate the shoot down of PR-21 in 1969 and "362" may play a role in this painting. I have conflicting information but I think it was PR-9 or -6. In those days the BuNo and modex was changed and swapped so much and so often it's hard to be sure. Thank you. Marty Hall email@example.com..." [12OCT2004]
NOTICE: "...As many people already know, I've spent the last couple of years trying to round up the Plankowners of VQ-1 and VQ-2 so that we can commemorate the fiftieth anniversaries of the two squadrons next year. Incident to this effort, I've located and communicated with several dozen old timers, and my P4M novel The Last Boomerang has smoked out several more who were not Plankowners but who were in the squadrons during the P4M days. As many of you also know, I've had a particular affection for the old P4M-1Q and as a function of having been in VQ-2 just shy of four full years, I'm told that I have more drive time in that aircraft than anyone, certainly more time than anyone now alive. (There has never been an aircraft like it. I was privileged to command the first P-3C squadron in 1969 and superlative as that machine was - and is - there were features of the old bird that were so far ahead of its time as to show up even the P-3C.) There may be as many as forty Naval Aviators, about a half-dozen ECM Evaluators and at least sixty crewmen still alive who operated and maintained the magnificent P4M-1Q at one time in the fifties, and I'm wondering if any of them - you - are interested in communicating with one another. We're not spring chickens any more, but an e-mail now and then from an old buddy never killed anybody. Drop me a line sometime and if there's a response, I'll try to keep everybody informed of the effort and perhaps trade P4M stories and e-mail addresses. John McIntyre (VW2A '55, VQ-2 '55 through '58)...John McIntyre firstname.lastname@example.org..." [26SEP2004]
NOTICE: "...Attention any P4M-1Q folks, either VQ-1 or VQ-2, who were "present at the creation" as Plankowners...we're still a bit short of a complete list of the living plankowners, although the presentations for the fiftieth anniversaries next year in your names are in the design phase now. We've "lost" VQ-2 David Kouns - the e-mail we have won't work - and several other people whose original e-mail addresses aren't working, so if you get to read this, get in touch again so we can update you. No reunion, travel, or inconvenience on anybody's part will be involved. Royalties from P4M-1Q novel of the Cold War "The Last Boomerang" are covering the costs...John McIntyre (VW-2W/VQ-2 1955-1958) email@example.com..." [03AUG2004]
NOTICE: "...Does anyone have information as to the address and/or phone number of Vince Anania who was flying PR-9 (VQ-1) when it was attacked on June 20, 1959? The number I had in Melbourne, FL (321-255-6355) has been disconnected...DAVIDOW, LT Mel Retired firstname.lastname@example.org..." [19JUN2004]
NOTICE: "...I was one of the original 12 naval aviators that, in Jan 1951, formed what eventually became VQ-1 flying the P4M-1Q Martin Mercator. I am looking for any photographs, movies, information as to intercepts by Russian, Chinese, or North Korean fighters of the P4M-1 or P4M-1Q to complete a history of the 19 aircraft built. I will pay for duplicating anything you may have on the Mercator. Also will pay for photocopies of pilot's logbooks of those pages with P4M entries...Mel Davidow email@example.com..." [19MAY2003]
NOTICE: "...I was one of the 12 original naval aviators that, in January 1951, received orders that resulted in our establishing the Special Project Division of the Air Operations Department of NS Sangley Point, Philippines in October 1951 flying the Martin P4M-1Q Mercator. In 1955 this unit became VQ-1. I am researching the P4M and request any help in locating the names of the plank owners of the Special Project Division, the NAF Patrol Unit, Naval Air Facility Port Lyautey Morocco, VQ-1, and VQ-2...DAVIDOW, LT Mel Retired firstname.lastname@example.org..." [NOTICE Updated 17FEB2003 | NOTICE Updated 09AUG99 | 18JUN99]
NOTICE: "...EP3 Photo Gallery from HAINAN, China http://www.pacom.mil/ep3photos.htm...John Nelson email@example.com..." [29JUN2001]
NOTICE: "...Sure glad we got our crew home ok (SEE: Latest EP-3E in China News http://p3orion.nl/hainan.html). Looks like our people are still getting the job done! I was a member of the group when we commissioned VQ-1 at NS Sangley Point, Philippines on 1 June,1955. We moved to NAS Iwakuni, Japan, and my aircraft was shot down in August, 1956, by two MiG-15s and a MiG-17 off the China Coast. A Shipmates of mine who needed flight time took that flight for me. He had a wife and 5 kids. His body was one of 3 that were recovered. He was identified by the name stenciled on his parachute harness. Glad you guys are home. Keep up the good work...THORPE, Carl O. CARBETT@AOL.COM..." [30APR2001]
NOTICE: "...As a former Eastern Pilot and with Electra (L-188) experience I marvel at the predicament that the Navy Pilots (VQ-1 SEE: Latest EP-3E in China News http://p3orion.nl/hainan.html)were confronted with and they really deserve credit for a job well done...Robert E. Keay firstname.lastname@example.org..." [29APR2001]
NOTICE: "...As a member of a special group of Army guys attached to VQ-1 (1968-1971) and VQ-2 (Crewing EA-3B) from 1958 to 1974. I had a special feeling of pride when I saw Crew One step onto the ramp with those good looking VQ-1 patches on their flight suits. Especially since I was in the squadron when the North Koreans shot down PR-21...BOUFFARD, Gil email@example.com..." [18APR2001]
NOTICE: "...I was in the Navy from 1978 to 1982, and served my tour of duty at VAQ-129. The past 2 weeks events involving the P-3 in China and the subsequent release and storys of the aircrew's adventures, definitly held my attention. Please give the crew, and especially Lt. Osborne, a well deserved "Bravo Zulu"!...AE2 Daniel R. Van House Vision123@excite.com..." [16APR2001]
NOTICE: "...HOOYAH to the P-3ers from VQ-1...Welcome Home.....BZ!. HUNTER, Bob BMC (DV) firstname.lastname@example.org..." [14APR2001]
NOTICE: "...I'm so glad the VQ-1 crew has finally been released by the Chi-Coms. I've been praying for their safe return. There but for the grace of God, go I. RC-135 Recon Brother...Maj Paul Gallaher email@example.com..." [12APR2001]
NOTICE: "...My thoughts and prayers are with the Crew of VQ-1 and also with the families and Shipmates back home in Oak Harbor...WILKINSON, AT1(AW) Laura E. Retired firstname.lastname@example.org..." [11APR2001]
NOTICE: "...The recent incident in the news reminds me of one over 30 years ago over the North China Sea. I was a member of VQ-1 (1965-1967) and recieved The Navy Times after my discharge. I saw some friends of my listed as lost after the VQ-1 EC-121 was shot down in April 1969. I compliment the pilot of this plane for his safe landing after the accident. (SEE: Latest EP-3E in China News http://p3orion.nl/hainan.html) My prayers are with the families of the crew being detained. Of course my thought and prayers are with them also. Bill Culver, Personnelman from the past...CULVER, William R. email@example.com..." [05APR2001]
NOTICE: "...I offer my best wishes and prayers for the immediate return of the VQ-1 (SEE: Latest EP-3E in China News http://p3orion.nl/hainan.html) crew currently being held hostage in the PRC. I was stationed at Camp Fuchinobe, Japan, from 1965 to 1969. I lived in the village of Minami-Rinkan, not far from NAS Atsugi, Japan. Many of my neigbors were members of VQ-1 who were aboard the EC-21 when the North Koreans shot it down...Terrence M. Truax firstname.lastname@example.org..." [04APR2001]
NOTICE: "...It is amazing that an EP-3 (SEE: Latest EP-3E in China News http://p3orion.nl/hainan.html) would be mistaken for a spy plane when its really is a hurricane hunter doing there routine check around the globe. Well the oldest of the moth balls fleets are still running strong. Survillance of the weater yes. Now the older models were the wind chaser, the Hurricane hunter and now the newest one the EP-3 the newest hi tech Navy Hurricane Hunter...Matthew Howard Howa517@aol.com..." [04APR2001]
NOTICE: "...I just read an article in the Seattle Times regarding the EP-3 (SEE: EP-3 In China http://p3orion.nl/) currently being detained by the Chinese Government and noticed that one of the crew members is Nicolas Mellos who is a former flight engineer for VP-8. Let us all pray that Nick and the remainder of the crew is released as expediently as possible...Harlan Erickson email@example.com..." [03APR2001]
NOTICE: "...I served with VQ-1 as crewmember from 1977-1979 (war criminal 29 SIR), Director of Data Communications at Duke University, and a writer. I'm thinking of doing a book on PR-24 and would like to chat with anyone that was in the Q at the time of the shootdown. When I was flying with the Q, scuttlebutt had it that the N.K's called the Russians and asked for vectors to PR-24 for a "practice intercept" flight. The Russians complied and the Koreans, breaking their agreement, took out PR-24. Nixon didn't help when he gave away BRIGAND by making that statement about "electronic gadgets." Would anyone be willing to talk about their time in VQ-1? The guys that went down in PR-24 have never gotten the recognition they deserve. I'm hoping that my book will help to accomplish that. Thanks for your time...Robert "Bob" Currier, AT3 (Special Projects) firstname.lastname@example.org..." [07NOV98]
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